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clint van zandt is a former fbi profiler and joins me right now. clint you have some new details about what we learned through this press conference? >> well, i think a number of things, thomas. as you just shared, we know the number of dead and wounded now, unfortunately. we also know in any type of large traumatic situations like this, the phone lines, cell phone lines go down very quickly. and i think one of the things you learn from a situation like that is that if you're involved, if you're near that and you can't get a phone call out, immediately try to text anyone you want to contact. you can normally get through if you use your phone for texting purposes, even though it won't function as a cell phone. now, we know the likelihood that police had to respond to an active shooter. as one of your previous guests indicated, this is something we learned after columbine high school that shooting there. there was a time when law enforcement would show up at the scene of an active shooter. they would wait the 15, 30, 45 minutes until s.w.a.t. might g
clint van zandt is a former fbi profiler and joins me right now. clint you have some new details about what we learned through this press conference? >> well, i think a number of things, thomas. as you just shared, we know the number of dead and wounded now, unfortunately. we also know in any type of large traumatic situations like this, the phone lines, cell phone lines go down very quickly. and i think one of the things you learn from a situation like that is that if you're involved, if...
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the good news is the fbi has identified several suspects involved in the attack. the bad news is, libya has no one in custody and some of the people we identified may have even fled benghazi according to the "new york times." so much for the key players. as for the fringe players, an egyptian militant has been arrested in cairo with possible ties to the attack, but he hasn't been questioned by the u.s. and a tunisian man was arrested in october but he isn't considered a main suspect at this point, either. without a clear lead and without a whole lot of cooperation from the libyan government either, the fbi has now resorted to asking for tips on facebook and twitter. facebook and twitter in a quadruple murder case. "outfront" tonight, senator johnny isaacson. senator, thanks for being with us. it is never easy doing an investigation of this ilk on someone else's sovereign turf, but does this stand out? >> it does to me. your point is well taken. if they're looking to twitter and facebook three months later, they should have been on the ground within hours after the
the good news is the fbi has identified several suspects involved in the attack. the bad news is, libya has no one in custody and some of the people we identified may have even fled benghazi according to the "new york times." so much for the key players. as for the fringe players, an egyptian militant has been arrested in cairo with possible ties to the attack, but he hasn't been questioned by the u.s. and a tunisian man was arrested in october but he isn't considered a main suspect...
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i'm pretty sure that by the time this thing really got rolling, we probably had the fbi on the property also because there's always that concern of potential terrorism. other agencies, bomb squads, possibly atf. >> 3:29 local time this afternoon is when the calls started to come in or when the shooting, we believe began, 6:27 local time. we talked to an affiliate who said she witnessed the shooter who she described as jogging through the macy's. she believed he may have entered through a back way at macy's and jogged past her with what seemed to be a semiautomatic rifle, ar-15, then opened fire. once he left macy's in the food court area where many stores enter into. a lot of people were, sadly, in a position to see and hear this nightmare unfold. we're starting to get more and more eyewitnesses here. i want to bring in christina fisher, she spoke with local affiliate koin. let's listen. >> i was walking on the lower level heading from the west end toward the east end of the mall under the food court. all of a sudden i heard something similar to a .22 poppinging probably eight times. an
i'm pretty sure that by the time this thing really got rolling, we probably had the fbi on the property also because there's always that concern of potential terrorism. other agencies, bomb squads, possibly atf. >> 3:29 local time this afternoon is when the calls started to come in or when the shooting, we believe began, 6:27 local time. we talked to an affiliate who said she witnessed the shooter who she described as jogging through the macy's. she believed he may have entered through a...
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that's after her statement, and one of the fbi interrogators who was successful in getting information from al qaeda detainees using noncoercive means has strongly criticized the cia's use of torture saying it didn't work. listen to what he says on "60 minutes" about what happened after a cia interrogator showed up to take over the questioning of one of the detainees he had been dealing with. let's watch. >> supposedly he's an expert in the field. so i asked him, do you know anything about islamic fundamentalism? he said no. have you ever interrogated anybody? no. he basically said no, he knows human nature. >> and how does he react to this? >> he basically stopped cooperating. >> the information dried up? >> yes, totally. >> frank, is that true? that he stopped talking after they start getting rough with him? >> i don't know enough about the particular case. i can't answer that. >> let me ask you generally about this. how is this going to come out? frank, you're a general columnist. i read you a couple times a week. how is this going to play with most people, liberals and everyone, wh
that's after her statement, and one of the fbi interrogators who was successful in getting information from al qaeda detainees using noncoercive means has strongly criticized the cia's use of torture saying it didn't work. listen to what he says on "60 minutes" about what happened after a cia interrogator showed up to take over the questioning of one of the detainees he had been dealing with. let's watch. >> supposedly he's an expert in the field. so i asked him, do you know...
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. >> clint van zandt, former fbi profiler. thank you for joining me. we've been covering the breaking news that shots were fired at the clackamas town center mall near portland, oregon, earlier today. roughly about 3:30 in the afternoon pacific time. at this time we have confirmation that three people are dead, including the gunman. one person is wounded. witnesses say the gunman worked with a semiautomatic rifle. the rachel maddow show picks up after this. >>> good evening. i'm ezra klein. rachel maddow has the night off. we begin tonight with an update on the breaking news in the pacific northwest, the terrifying scene that unfolded earlier tonight at a shopping mall in portland, oregon. a gunman with what witnesses describe as a rifle opening fire on holiday shoppers. two people were killed. the shooter also killed, and one person has been seriously injured according to the sheriff's department. an eyewitness who had been browsing the watch counter inside macy's described the scene to our portland, oregon affiliate kgw tv. >> constant boom, boom, bo
. >> clint van zandt, former fbi profiler. thank you for joining me. we've been covering the breaking news that shots were fired at the clackamas town center mall near portland, oregon, earlier today. roughly about 3:30 in the afternoon pacific time. at this time we have confirmation that three people are dead, including the gunman. one person is wounded. witnesses say the gunman worked with a semiautomatic rifle. the rachel maddow show picks up after this. >>> good evening. i'm...
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the fbi is assisting us, all of our local police agencies. we thank them for their assistance now and we will be relying on them in the near future, as well. the family members or witnesses who want to contact us call 503-655-8211. if you saw something or know something about this incident, firsthand, we want to hear from you. there's a lot of speculation going on about what happened, what the circumstances were, and the active shooter situations intense situations like this get perceived many ways. you get ten people who saw the same incident and they will give you ten versions of it. we, as law enforcement officers, our job is to collect all of the information and make it in to a cohesive idea of what actually occurred, not report based on the speculation. we have tentatively identified the shooter at this time. we will not release his name or any other information other than he's an adult male until we have 100% confirmed that identity. the investigation will go on throughout the night. we have a command post set up over there. if you are
the fbi is assisting us, all of our local police agencies. we thank them for their assistance now and we will be relying on them in the near future, as well. the family members or witnesses who want to contact us call 503-655-8211. if you saw something or know something about this incident, firsthand, we want to hear from you. there's a lot of speculation going on about what happened, what the circumstances were, and the active shooter situations intense situations like this get perceived many...
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and the fbi left it at that. >> everyone we talk to out there swear up and down that they were going to solve the case. they didn't. >> with no happy ending, the media gave up. >> all the national media, they want the big story when they introduce me to my relatives, but until that happens, they don't want -- they're not interested in doing an article about the search. you know. actually, when you think about it, it's pretty pathetic if no one is actually looking for someone that disappeared. isn't that anyone important enough in your past life that want to look for you? >> so benjamin was stranded. with no name, no social security numb number. and no help. >> benjamin kyle, about to talk to me live along with the man who made that documentary. they are asking for your help, asking for your signature to the white house will have to act. don't miss this. it's next. rest... while a body in motion tends to stay in motion. staying active can actually ease arthritis symptoms. but if you have arthritis, staying active can be difficult. prescription celebrex can help relieve arthritis pain
and the fbi left it at that. >> everyone we talk to out there swear up and down that they were going to solve the case. they didn't. >> with no happy ending, the media gave up. >> all the national media, they want the big story when they introduce me to my relatives, but until that happens, they don't want -- they're not interested in doing an article about the search. you know. actually, when you think about it, it's pretty pathetic if no one is actually looking for someone...
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now is michigan congressman mike rogers, chairman of the house intelligence committee, also a former fbi agent. thanks for being with us. what is the significance and what do we know about the success of this, because there had been prior attempts, all failures, but this one seems to have worked. >> it seems to have worked according to plan and maybe worked beyond what we expected and maybe even what the north koreans expected. this puts them clearly on a path, you know, there's that three-legged stool of trying to get a nuclear weapon you can deliver some place and detonate. the mission portion of that is a very important portion of that, so this is a very serious, very provocative steps, certainly in violation of u.n. resolutions, and this is a big moment for the international community. and i would specify china about their ability to step up and engage and change the mind of north korea on its pursuit of a nuclear weapon program that can weaponize it, put it on the top of a missile, and fire it some place. >> how concerned are we right now about a nuclear test, another nuclear test,
now is michigan congressman mike rogers, chairman of the house intelligence committee, also a former fbi agent. thanks for being with us. what is the significance and what do we know about the success of this, because there had been prior attempts, all failures, but this one seems to have worked. >> it seems to have worked according to plan and maybe worked beyond what we expected and maybe even what the north koreans expected. this puts them clearly on a path, you know, there's that...
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he said the fbi has not questioned him about this case to this point. brooke? >> all right. on miami beach, thanks, john. >> chelsea roth nearly dieda a teenager from an eating disorder and now teaches yoga at workshops across the country. in this week's human factor, we see how she turned her life around. >> how are you? >> when you see chelsea roth now, looking happy and vibrant, it's nearly impossible to imagine the day she said part of her brain died. at 15 years old, she suffered a stroke brought on by severe anorexia. >> i now know from looking at hospital records i was 58 pounds. >> 58 pounds and close to dying. so many parts of her body were failing. there no pictures of her at her sickest. this picture is from about a year earlier in and out of treatment centers. she remembers how starting a diet with her mom in the midst of a difficult and dangerous childhood spiralled into a disorder that nearly killed her. >> looking back, i think my body was my only way to tell the people around me that something wasn't okay. i was scare and hurting and i needed help. >> help ca
he said the fbi has not questioned him about this case to this point. brooke? >> all right. on miami beach, thanks, john. >> chelsea roth nearly dieda a teenager from an eating disorder and now teaches yoga at workshops across the country. in this week's human factor, we see how she turned her life around. >> how are you? >> when you see chelsea roth now, looking happy and vibrant, it's nearly impossible to imagine the day she said part of her brain died. at 15 years...
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businessman and the fbi would have jurisdiction over the murders of u.s. citizens in other countries. so it's very likely that mcafee will at the very least have to talk with federal authorities about what he knows about his neighbor's killing. john zarrella cnn, miami. >>> in a controversial move, a dead marine will not be awarded the medal of honor. some say he was already brain dead when he landed on a grenade to save his fellow soldiers. [ male announcer ] it's simple physics... a body at rest tends to stay at rest... while a body in motion tends to stay in motion. staying active can actually ease arthritis symptoms. but if you have arthritis, staying active can be difficult. prescription celebrex can help relieve arthritis pain so your body can stay in motion. because just one 200mg celebrex a day can provide 24 hour relief for many with arthritis pain and inflammation. plus, in clinical studies, celebrex is proven to improve daily physical function so moving is easier. celebrex can be taken with or without food. and it's not a narcotic. you and your
businessman and the fbi would have jurisdiction over the murders of u.s. citizens in other countries. so it's very likely that mcafee will at the very least have to talk with federal authorities about what he knows about his neighbor's killing. john zarrella cnn, miami. >>> in a controversial move, a dead marine will not be awarded the medal of honor. some say he was already brain dead when he landed on a grenade to save his fellow soldiers. [ male announcer ] it's simple physics... a...